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Internal voltage domain bypass caps #197

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kingovchouffe opened this issue Nov 10, 2024 · 6 comments
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Internal voltage domain bypass caps #197

kingovchouffe opened this issue Nov 10, 2024 · 6 comments

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@kingovchouffe
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Hello,

I'm a hardware design engineer, and the part in the schematic of the bypass caps for the internals voltages domains makes absolutely no sense electrically speaking.

Do you have documentation about the miner chip that specified this arrangement?

I am willing to help with the hardware design, this project looks very cool !

@skot
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skot commented Nov 11, 2024

Hey, welcome!

There is no documentation... All we have are some cryptic "repair guides" and closely looking at existing hashboards.

@kingovchouffe
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I tried to look at some documentation about those ASIC but there is not much appart those repair guides which you mentioned. My theory is that their retro engineering is wrong in the symbol pin out, but someone it works. But bypassing two DC voltages with capacitors makes nonsense to me. I'll try to find some better picture of Asics board

@tkircher
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According to this, there should be no connections to VDD1, VDD2, or VDD3 in a single chip configuration:

https://www.zeusbtc.com/articles/information/4915-antminer-s19-xp-hydro-hash-board-repair-guide

@skot
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skot commented Nov 27, 2024

Are you referring to this diagram? image

That appears to be a higher level diagram. If you look at the actual hashboard you'll see each internal voltage domain has bypass capacitors.

@tkircher
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You're right, I didn't recognize that at first. I found this for the BM1397 that has the same basic design:
BM1397_sch
And this:
1714683399551
@kingovchouffe is right that this is a pretty unusual arrangement.

@skot
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skot commented Nov 27, 2024

I think it makes sense if you imagine they are bypass caps for four 0.3V-each series connected cores.
image

and four 0.3V cores makes sense with the nominal 1.2V VDD for BM1366, BM1368 and BM1370.

BM1362 has a nominal VDD of 0.3V and it doesn't have any of these VDDx bypass pins.
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