Optional “War Mode” so that there’s an incentive to flag yourself for PvP

[stephenenzor]

This is not a new idea as it has been implemented on some other servers, but it would be cool if flagging yourself for PvP gave you like a 20% experience boost or some such so that there’s a reason to do it. This would be entirely optional of course and maybe make people disable it in a city or some such.

As long as the reward is kept modest and the feature is kept optional I think this could be nice and increase the pool of folks in the world PvP’ing.

Thoughts? This and an optional “Explorers Contract” for a “slow leveling” challenge mode would be really neat and make me love this great server even more! Thank you for all the work you’ve poured into the project and have a good one.

[minthes]

I support any suggestion that boosts xp gained for new players. I have friends from other pservers that would roll on Chromie but they're too put off by the low XP rates compared to other servers.
And I really like the idea of having xp increase done partially through a warmode as a fair amount of players would be interested in that.

[krutoj87]

This already was suggested here: https://github.com/orgs/chromiecraft/discussions/7206

And as I already said there, I am absolutely against it, because this wouldn't be any different than "giving players experience boosts for CC points to give players an incentive to Support the server."

Optional gameplay advantages is a line that should never be crossed. Because they aren't Optional. Players not participating in them are degraded to second class players.
As soon as a war mode will be added to CC I will leave. Because the very reason I joined this server is because I want to play without having to put up with PVP or other players having unfair advantages over me.

[Apathyxia]

There is no advantage or disadvantage for warmode. YOU are the one thinking you are in a disadvantegous position if someone else would use warmode. It'd be optional. You are trying to justify something to be disadvantageous because you don't like it.

You are not competing with anyone while levelling. If you are, then you are playing on a wrong server.

Levelling is super quick already as it is (double xp). Only challenge modes are on 1x rates.

When it comes to warmode, you probably wouldn't even see a single person in the world before Outland, not necessarily even then due to the low population of the server, thus completely nullifying the threat that warmode would bring.

[krutoj87]

Ok I'm going to add one last thing:
Would you still make the same arguments if we would talk about exp rate increases buyable for Chromiepoints?
If not, then you yourself don't even believe in your arguments.
I mean it would be an optional incentive to support the server and if a faster leveling speed of one player has no effect on the other player, it shouldn't be a problem, right?

Levelling is super quick already as it is (double xp). Only challenge modes are on 1x rates.

When it comes to warmode, you probably wouldn't even see a single person in the world before Outland, not necessarily even then due to the low population of the server, thus completely nullifying the threat that warmode would bring.

You do realise, if you really believe in what you write here, it's an argument against a war mode? Because if what you write is true a war mode won't change anything, so why waste precious dev time on it?

[Apathyxia]

There is a massive difference in BUYING something and having something as an OPT IN. One can be seen as pay-to-win, one as a challenge. Not everyone would have the option to choose the former, but everyone would have the option do the latter.

Also, don't contributors get permanent rested XP? That's already a perk that people normally don't have.

I am in favour of war mode in general, but I do not see what its purpose would be for the server. I am not against it, but I, in fact, agree with you that it would be a waste of dev time.

[krutoj87]

In order for it to be p2w it would need to give one player an advantage over another player. Which is what I'm saying the whole time and what is constantly denied.

Also I don't know all the percs for the different types of contributions, but I can at least say for contributing money you don't get permanent rested XP. Maybe it's for other types of contributions, I don't know. But if it is, it's at least an incentive for something that helps everyone on the server and not just a handful of players who enjoy open world PVP.

A war mode that only rewards vanity items wouldn't be a problem for me. But I don't want gameplay advantages tied to it, because it really only serves a small group of players.

[Apathyxia]

You could choose to opt-out is the main thing here. And as I said earlier, if you are considering levelling as a competition, you're on a wrong server.

What warmode would bring (as suggested), it wouldn't be away from you. I have levelled all my (non-challenge) alts with PvP on and basically never encountered another person, so it's unlikely you'd even be attacked. The whole server revolves around end-game content for now, and levelling provides nothing of interest for majority.

If anything, IF warmode would bring more people to level up alts or bring new players over, it would just be a net positive for the server. I think that's what matters here. I've heard several people say that their friends would be interested in coming over if we had better xp rates and such - that'd be one way of offering that.

Even if it's a PvE server, PvP will always be part of the game in one way or another. There is a handful of us that want to see that side of the game be successful as well.